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Documented Rove-Owen connection shows real reason for pushing Bush judicial nominees

Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 11:49:12 AM PDT

[From the diaries -- Hunter]

I recently wrote a diary connecting the Texas shenanigans of Tom DeLay and Karl Rove with the current White House effort to push through conservative judges.  I posited that the Christian Right is just the cover story with the real agenda being to support big business. (link)  Little did I know at the time that there is a documented connection between Rove and Priscilla Owen that proved my case.  From the November/December 2003 issue of Mother Jones (link):

Long before he took on the moniker of "Bush's brain," Rove realized he could energize the legal and medical establishments by targeting the once-sleepy Texas Supreme Court elections. "Karl has always had the requisite skills, but the proving ground came in the late 1980s and early 1990s," said Kim Ross, a former chief lobbyist for the Texas Medical Association, who worked closely with Rove. "Karl was talking about how business and medicine had to pull this together on the tort thing."

The conflicts this created were on full display in the case of Priscilla Owen, now a Bush nominee to the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals. When she first decided in the early 1990s that she wanted to run for a spot on the Texas Supreme Court, she called on Ralph Wayne, president of the Texas Civil Justice League, a trade group formed by the state's manufacturing, transportation, and energy industries. "I said, 'Have you talked to Karl Rove?'" Wayne remembers. "She said, 'No, but I think I should.'"

After Rove met with Wayne and Owen, he signed on, giving the candidate the seal of approval from the state's corporate establishment. The money followed. Owen raised $1.1 million for her successful 1994 state Supreme Court campaign, with a record 21 percent coming directly from the business community and much more coming from corporate defense lawyers. Judge Owen later repaid the favor, in part, by lending her endorsement to a Texas Civil Justice League fundraising appeal.

Scherer also made other insightful observations that we should be talking about.  For one thing, Circuit court judges rarely do anything that would affect the Christian Right hot button issues, but they do make lots of rulings on business-related cases:

Big money, however, cares a great deal about who sits on the nation's 13 federal circuit courts....  circuit courts are the final venue for 99 percent of federal cases and most regulatory challenges. These courts, which operate in relative media obscurity, are not likely to make final decisions about high-profile social issues, such as gay marriage or the death penalty, which end up at the Supreme Court. Rather, they set precedent on issues affecting business such as media-ownership rules, sport-utility rollover lawsuits, or the rights of coal-mining companies to dump waste in thousands of miles of streambed in West Virginia. "There are many cases in which a circuit court nominee's views matter, but abortion is not one of them," says Alan Morrison, who leads Public Citizen's litigation group. "There are just a hundred different ways by which the courts of appeals judges can by little cuts kill plaintiffs."

Scherer made another important point that seems obvious in retrospect but no one has been talking about it.  The GOP set themselves up to be able to push big-business friendly judges by stalling the Clinton nominees, the very sort of thing they now accuse Democrats of doing:

Years of delaying President Clinton's nominees to these same courts left the Bush administration, and the business community, with a golden opportunity: All but two of the nation's 13 federal circuits -- evenly divided between Democratic and Republican appointees under Clinton -- could have Republican majorities by the next election. "With this four-year crop, it's really going to be a different judiciary than it is now," says Eldie Acheson, who led judge selection for Clinton's Justice Department.

The stated goal of many of these business groups is not a modest one: to chip away at more than 60 years of legal history, dismantle federal social services, and effectively erase the policies of the Franklin Roosevelt era. "We've been living since the New Deal with an essentially unconstitutional government," says Roger Pilon, director of the Cen- ter for Constitutional Studies at the Cato Institute. The new generation of young conservative and libertarian lawyers being elevated to federal courts, he adds, "are not afraid to say that."

In addition, Scherer documents the covert support of big business for Bush judicial nominees:

....major corporations -- Home Depot, Wal-Mart, and the insurance giant AIG, to name a few -- have spent more than $100 million through front groups to remake courts that have long been a refuge for wronged consumers and employees. By targeting incumbent judges, they have tilted state supreme courts to pro-business majorities and ousted aggressive attorneys general. At the same time, corporate lobbyists have blitzed state legislators with tort-reform proposals, overseeing the passage of new laws in 24 states over the past year alone.

Now, with a sympathetic ear in the White House, corporate America is taking its legal agenda to the federal bench with a behind-the-scenes campaign of high-powered lobbying and interest-group advertising....Several of President Bush's nominees to federal appeals and district courts owe their careers to the support of the insurance, retail, and energy industries that got them elected on the state level.

The nominees'... promotion to the federal bench coincides with an ambitious corporate legislative agenda, backed by more than 475 lobbyists, that seeks to force limits on jury awards and move lawsuits out of state courts, where judges historically have favored plaintiffs. In Congress, the House Majority Leader, Rep. Tom DeLay, has formed a working group on "judicial accountability" to push for the approval of the president's nominees and launch investigations of liberal federal judges. "What you have is a wholesale effort to hijack the federal judiciary," says Senator Richard Durbin, an Illinois Democrat and former corporate defense lawyer. "They clearly want to put in a more conservative judiciary and then start stacking the deck by removing more and more cases to the federal courts."  

And since Scherer wrote his article, the covert support of big business for judicial nominees has not lessened.  The U.S. Chamber of Commerce is the largest financial backer of the Committee for Justice, a group formed two years ago specifically to promote Bush's nominees. And the National Association of Manufacturers, under the new leadership of former Michigan Gov. John Engler (R), announced in January plans for a multimillion-dollar push to support Bush's judges. (link)

"Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain" said the pretend Wizard of Oz when Toto yanked down the curtain that hid him from view.  Now the curtain has been yanked down to show the real driving motive for and the real financial backers of the Bush judicial nominees.  And religion has little to do with it, except as a cover story.

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  •  circuit courts (4.00 / 2)

    how many of the judges that bush wants to push thru will be placed on circuit courts?

    those were good times, as far as we knew --colbert

    by AmericanHope on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 11:06:57 AM PDT

    •  two notes (4.00 / 2)

      The judges being filibustered are all circuit court nominees.

      The Rove-Owen connection is no secret, no surprise, and tangential to the main reasons to oppose.

      •  I agree... (4.00 / 4)

        ...that the connection isn't so important. What's important is that 1) Owens is incompetent, 2) she's in the tank completely to the corporate interests and 3) opposing her nomination has nothing whatsoever to do with religion.

        That Rove = corporate interests is indeed hardly shocking. That the religious right doesn't see who really runs the show in the Georgewbushican party is.

        •  "opposing her nomination has nothing ... (none / 1)

          this is #1
          "
          opposing her nomination has nothing whatsoever to do with religion"

          or possibly this
          THE REPUBLICANS ARE LYING TO FAITH BASED PEOPLE THAT THESE JUDGES MATTER TO THEM

          those were good times, as far as we knew --colbert

          by AmericanHope on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 11:18:05 AM PDT

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          •  Yes those are good. (4.00 / 13)

            But I disagree about the connection to Rove not mattering.  That is key to showing what the White House (Rove=WH) is really up to, which is how to win the PR war.  This is not about any specific nomination.  Democrats often want to argue on the merits and just aren't good at politicking and driving public opinion, and that's what this is all about.

            The ...Bushies... don't make policies to deal with problems. ...It's all about how can we spin what's happening out there to do what we want to do. Krugman

            by mikepridmore on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 11:23:53 AM PDT

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            •  true (4.00 / 2)

              i agree w/you..we gotta stop the moralizing bs...

              but do you think that many folks even know who rove is??

              those were good times, as far as we knew --colbert

              by AmericanHope on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 11:29:20 AM PDT

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              •  Yes. Republicans (none / 1)

                worship him and Democrats loathe him.  He is a known commodity.

                The ...Bushies... don't make policies to deal with problems. ...It's all about how can we spin what's happening out there to do what we want to do. Krugman

                by mikepridmore on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 11:32:44 AM PDT

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                •  It all depends (none / 0)

                  I have talked to several neighbors and others who do not know who Karl Rove is. I would guess anyone who follows politics or a good bit of the news knows.
                  But those who refuse to watch the news or do not read the newspaper often may not know. I have a friend who is a staunch Democrat but refuses to read or listen to anything political until a few months before a national election. She says it makes her too angry and nervous. So some of these types who may be very smart but hate talking, reading or knowing about politics and there are millions out there..may not know.

                  The one thing we know about the McCain campaign...is that they're very good at negative campaigns, they're not so good at governing- Barack Obama

                  by wishingwell on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 12:58:40 PM PDT

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                  •  on the money (none / 0)

                    we know who Kaptain Karl is ... so do the folks who listen to Limbaugh ... the voters who make the difference, though, have little idea ... i'd feel really safe guessing that, of those voting in the last presidential election, well over 50% did not know who Karl Rove is, and the vast majority of that group had not recall hearing his name ...

                    we must always be aware of the gap between those of us who pay close attention, and the masses who do not ...

                    Which pundit most resembles Ruby Rhod?

                    by wystler on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 01:43:41 PM PDT

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                  •  I have a friend who is a super staunch Republican (none / 0)

                    but who has no idea who Karl Rove is.   Honestly, busy people don't necessarily know who Bush's Brain is.   But as to the topic, these judges are always about business.  The same tactic was used in California against Rose Bird, Cruz Reynoso and Joseph Grodin.  The scam was about the death penalty and social issues but the real opposition and its funding was from the banks and insurance companies because rulings had come down against their repressive, anti consumer practices.   The new justices promptly reversed all the consumer safeguards and that continues with Janice Brown, another rejected nominee
                  •  You may be right (none / 0)

                    based on the comments I am seeing here.  HArd to believe that many people don't know who he is, but maybe they don't.

                    The ...Bushies... don't make policies to deal with problems. ...It's all about how can we spin what's happening out there to do what we want to do. Krugman

                    by mikepridmore on Sat Apr 30, 2005 at 07:50:08 AM PDT

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          •  Yes (4.00 / 4)

            The Republicans use the Religous Right and it is just a cover for more sinister goals and aspirations. The religious right allows themselves to be used and so they have no one to blame but themselves. They cannot see through the smokescreen that they are being used by the Right to further the
            agendas of the rich, the corporations especially the pharmaceutical industry and oil industry.

            The one thing we know about the McCain campaign...is that they're very good at negative campaigns, they're not so good at governing- Barack Obama

            by wishingwell on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 12:01:16 PM PDT

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        •  Owens appeals to both corporate and religious (4.00 / 9)

          I did a little research the other night and prepared this document for the MoveOn Rally for the Filibuster I organized here in Bend: http://exerscape.com/updates/filibuster-talking-points.doc

          Owen not only took money from companies like Enron and Halliburton and then refused to refuse herself and ruled in their favor in cases they were parties to--she is also so anti-abortion that Alberto Gonzales, when he sat on the Texas Supreme Court with her, once criticized her for attempting to re-write the Texas Parental Notification Act, calling her dissent "an unconscionable act of judicial activism."

          Yes, that Al Gonzales, who is now the Attorney General. She's the perfect judge in the Bushies view.

          "In the end we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends." MLK, changed to this during the 2008 FISA fight

          by bewert on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 12:08:31 PM PDT

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          •  Great talking points (none / 0)

            2 questions, tho:

            Do you have a link or reference for the Gonzalez quote?

            Any chance you could put the points in html to make them more readily accessible?

            Everybody talkin' 'bout Heaven ain't goin' there -- Mahalia Jackson

            by DaveW on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 12:36:23 PM PDT

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            •  Molly Ivins Knows Prissy Owen (4.00 / 2)

              Check out Molly Ivins book 'Bushwacked, Life in George W. Bush's America' Pages 230-233 for extensive coverage of how Owen is so alligned with the corporations that she pulls decisions out of her ass for them. If there ever was an activist judge, Owen is it. She is completely unpredictable.

              Sorry I don't have time to quote any Ivins. Gotta run.

              The plural of anecdote is not data.

              by bobinson on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 02:03:14 PM PDT

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            •  Here's the source for the Gonzales quote (4.00 / 2)

              It's noted on page one here: http://www.independentjudiciary.com/resources/docs/owenlr405.pdf

              I'm looking for the original source. There some pretty rich stuff in this report:

              Sanchez v. Halliburton. Carlos Sanchez, a Halliburton field worker in Laredo Texas,
              won a $2.6 million verdict after the jury found that a company supervisor had framed him to test
              positive for cocaine. The appeals court overturned the entire verdict, and Sanchez appealed to
              the Texas Supreme Court. During the four months that the case was before the Court,
              Halliburton - which did not want the Texas Supreme Court to hear the case - gave Justices
              Owen and Hecht $1,000 each, and Justice Alberto Gonzales, now U.S. Attorney General, $3,000.
              The campaign donations were the only ones Halliburton made to Supreme Court justices that
              year. The Court subsequently declined to hear the case, which had the effect of upholding the
              invalidation of the entire $2.6 million jury award.

              In another case, FM Properties Operating Co. v. City of Austin, Justice Owen dissented
              from the majority's ruling that a state law that had been tailored to allow a particular developer
              to bypass the city of Austin's municipal water-quality laws was unconstitutional. The majority
              pointed out that the law constituted an illegal delegation of rights - in this case, the right to
              pollute - to a private property owner. Justice Owen's dissent, which harshly criticized the
              decision for restricting property owners' rights, drew derision from the majority: "most of Justice
              Owen's dissent is nothing more than inflammatory rhetoric and thus merits no response."

              There's a whole section on the Parental Notification law as well. I'll post another link to the Gonzales quote if I can find the original source.

              "In the end we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends." MLK, changed to this during the 2008 FISA fight

              by bewert on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 02:19:58 PM PDT

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              •  From In re Jane Doe 4 ("Doe 4(II)") (4.00 / 3)

                By Justice Gonzales:
                "[T]o construe the Parental Notification Act so narrowly as to eliminate bypasses, or to create hurdles that simply are not to be found in the words of the statute, would be an unconscionable act of judicial activism. As a judge, I hold the rights of parents to protect and guide the education,safety, health, and development of their children as one of the most important rights in our society."

                Found here: http://www.usdoj.gov/olp/boydengrayreport.pdf

                This is the DOJ's report "Priscilla Owen: A Restrained, Principled Jurist" wherein it is argued that Gonzales was actually referring to Justice Hechts' dissent, not Justice Owens'.

                "In the end we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends." MLK, changed to this during the 2008 FISA fight

                by bewert on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 02:55:14 PM PDT

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      •  unreal (3.00 / 3)

        why dont the democrats actually SAY this stuff?

        its good to know though..good to know..

        those were good times, as far as we knew --colbert

        by AmericanHope on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 11:13:51 AM PDT

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      •  I agree but... (4.00 / 5)

        my point here was not to talk about the reasons to oppose Owen or other judges specifically.  My point was how to win public opinion on the whole filibuster of judges issue, by exposing the true motives of Rove and the GOP.  That is a much bigger thing than just the Owen nomination.  We do not win with reason alone.  We must play the PR game and drive down whatever public support they might have for pushing these judges.

        The ...Bushies... don't make policies to deal with problems. ...It's all about how can we spin what's happening out there to do what we want to do. Krugman

        by mikepridmore on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 11:17:40 AM PDT

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        •  right on (4.00 / 4)

          so much of the debate over judges has been about abortion, which automatically turns off a lot of people. if you made judges about something more than Roe, and focused on corporate interests obliterating the public interest, you'd get a lot more traction and sympathy on the issue than with the feminists just screeching about Roe.
          •  It goes far beyond (4.00 / 6)

            Abortion and choice and is not even about abortion and choice. I have always believed the Bush administration is run by Cheney, Rove, Rumsfeld and they could care less about the abortion and stem cell research and so called Life issues.
            They care more about furthering their corporate welfare and protecting pharmaceutical companies, insurance companies, Big Oil, Big Money and the Stock Market.

            If Bush was forced to choose to  kiss the head of a Bristol Myers CEO OR Dobson, Rove and Dickie would tell him he better well kiss Bristol Myers !!!

            I tell the religious right this all the time. Some even say they do not trust Cheney and Rove and know those 2 are not religious but they love their Divine Messenger, Shrub. If only they knew the REAL goals and who is really pulling the strings.

            But then Moderate Republicans ditching the party and calling on Bushco to straighten up and fly right has a better chance of success than ever convincing Right wingers to look deeper. They are totally hynoptized and mind controlled.

            The one thing we know about the McCain campaign...is that they're very good at negative campaigns, they're not so good at governing- Barack Obama

            by wishingwell on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 12:06:30 PM PDT

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            •  no kidding (4.00 / 3)

              yes, it is about letting corporations run roughshod over us, but the liberal elites in DC (i.e. Emily's List, NARAL, etc) frankly care more about "choice" than they do about corporate power issues...
          •  Thank you (none / 0)

            for your "framing."

            from
            a screeching feminist

        •  Simple strategy and usually effective... (none / 0)

          is to cite Article VI, Clause 3 of the US Constitution which states that a requiring a person to take religious oath to hold public office is unconstitutional.  I have been on sites where both liberals and conservatives both belong, and it works...especially in the case of wingnuts who claim that they want "Christians" on the Federal Bench.  By requiring those nominees to affirm an adherence to a Christian sect is unconstitutional...

          It has the effect on them that Holy Water or sunlight have on vampires...they run away shrieking, LOL!!!

           

        •  you're seem to be right (none / 1)

          it's important to expose the true motives of BushCo, and their abuse of the xian right ... we could stand to disaffect some of what was a loyal voting block last november ...

          caution urged to all, though ... not everybody knows who Karl Rove is ... don't hijack your own argument by going off on a THIS IS KARL ROVE tangent ... keep it simple to win ...

          Which pundit most resembles Ruby Rhod?

          by wystler on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 01:47:08 PM PDT

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          •  asdf (none / 1)

            of course, if there's a BLUE DRESS moment between Karl Rove and Jeff Gannon, all things would change ... America would then get their real introduction to bush's brain ...

            Which pundit most resembles Ruby Rhod?

            by wystler on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 01:48:39 PM PDT

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        •  This whole playbook goes back to Rose Bird (4.00 / 2)

          The business community didn't like Rose Bird, who was appointed Chief Justice in California in 1977.  They concocted a whole campaign based on her opposition to the death penalty and whipped up public support.  Then they got the public to vote against her and two other judges.  One was a Hispanic liberal (Cruz Reynoso) and the other was Joe Grodin, a former labor law professor.  People said that all three were targeted so as not to make it seem racist, but Grodin in fact was  targeted for his pro-labor views.

          The public was whipped up on the crime/death penalty issue, the early '80s equivalent of the religious issue, and all three went down to defeat.  Governor George Deukmejian appointed three business-friendly replacements, including his former law partner.  

          Same playbook, different time.

          John McCain--he's not who you think he is.

          by Mimikatz on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 06:10:41 PM PDT

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      •  The Main Reason... (4.00 / 9)

        ...according to the Center for American Progress:

        During their time together on the Texas Supreme Court, Attorney General-nominee Alberto Gonzalez repeatedly criticized Pricilla Owen - another judge that Bush re-nominated - for ignoring the law. In one case, relating to requirements for minors to "judicially bypass" parental consent requirements for abortion, Gonzalez characterized Owen's narrow view of the statute as "directly contradicted" by the legislative history and "an unconscionable act of judicial activism." In another case, where Owen would have effectively rewritten the law to protect manufactures of products that cause injury, Gonzales called Owen's opinion an attempt to "judicially amend the statute." Gonzales also joined an opinion that described an Owen's dissent, which would have allowed certain private land owners to exempt themselves from environmental regulations, as "nothing more than inflammatory rhetoric."

        Or, the shorter version--she's to conservative for the man who advocates torture.

        The revolution will not be televised, but we'll analyze it to death at The Next Hurrah.

        by DHinMI on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 12:00:09 PM PDT

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      •  It is no surprise, (none / 1)

        especially when one is familiar with Texas Republican politics.  They are pretending that these nominations are all about moral issues in order to get the support of their base which controls a lot of money and the biggest fucking megaphone in Texas, the mega-churches; but their real agenda has always been, since I first moved to Texas in 1978, Bid'nuss.  They want judges that are going to be completely in the pockets of Oil, Pharma, real estate developers, and tourism industry kingpins.  And don't laugh about the tourism industry here - they have been successfully lobbying the State Lege to shorten the school year in order to maximize profits to their industry, at the cost of our kids' education.  In Texas, it's always about maximizing somebody's profits.
  •  This surprises me... (4.00 / 5)

    ...not one bit. Thanks for pulling out the information.

    I wonder when the Christian right will wake up and realise that they've been played a fool by the corporate interests?

    I saw the movie 'The Corporation' the other day (well worth seeing) and, though there was little that was new to me in it, it really brought home how much of our lives are now ruled by corporations, not either the gov't, our religion, or our morals.

    I read 'Atlas Shrugged' many years ago, and thought it pretty funny back then. Now, I feel like the attitude 'oh, those poor corporations, undermined by their own government' seems so completely ludicrous that it beggars belief. The corporations will always be able to take care of themselves, even if Noam Chomsky is elevated to the post Owens is gunning for. Why make it so easy for them?

    Scary stuff. Thanks for posting.

    •  But Religious right (none / 0)

      Will not vote for a Democrat and would probably stay home from the polls and not be motivated..that is the best we can hope for with that group. Or they will get fed up and form a third party but then they know their voices will be silenced.

      The best we can hope for is convincing RINOS and moderates to join with us to bring down the Right wing by electing Democrats.

      The one thing we know about the McCain campaign...is that they're very good at negative campaigns, they're not so good at governing- Barack Obama

      by wishingwell on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 01:01:54 PM PDT

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    •  I agree, Mecki (none / 1)

      As it happens, I also saw The Corporation for the first time a few days ago, and my response to it was similar to Farenheit 9/11.  Like you, I knew a lot of the stuff already, but there's something about the way it was put together brought out my rage for this situation.

      I really hope that in renewing the Democratic party we can uncouple ourselves from large corporations--with the possible exception of Interface.  Anyone need biodegradable flooring for commercial enterprise???.

  •  Great diary and analysis you dug up, (none / 1)

      I think you should remove bombshell from your title.

      It's not that.  It's insight, not bombshell.

    This is telling, about the Chamber of Commerce being the biggest backer of the Committe for Justice.

    "unconstitutional government" -- Cato quote.  Lays it all bare.

  •  "Bush's Brain" (4.00 / 2)

    The book Bush's Brain has a lot about how Rove became the dominant consultant in the Texas Republican Party largely by pushing judges' candidacies.

    The influence of the [executive] has increased, is increasing, and ought to be diminished.

    by lysias on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 11:21:17 AM PDT

  •  Bill Frist's compromise offer (4.00 / 2)

    was that the Republicans would allow Dems to block State Court nominees if the Dems wouldn't try to mess with federal and SC nominees. Which would explain Durbin's comment about removing cases to the circuit courts. Some compromise. I certainly hope no Democrat is stupid enough (although I am well aware some are) to fall for that crap.

    It does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are 20 gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg. -- Thomas Jefferson

    by AtlantaJan on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 11:22:57 AM PDT

    •  Right (none / 1)

      We get to complain about lower court judges but the ones that really matter we have no say over

      "Unseen, in the background, Fate was quietly slipping the lead into the boxing glove." P.G. Wodehouse

      by gsbadj on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 12:20:21 PM PDT

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    •  Not State Court nominees (none / 1)

      District Court nominees, the fed's trial courts.  State Court nominees are either elected or appointed in their home state.

      Frist's compromise was poor BS, since it was acknowledged on the floor of the Senate yesterday that the district court nominees have not posed a problem for Dems.  They have not been filibustered.  District Court nominees rarely are a problem.  So Frist was giving away NOTHING by his compromise, which is why Reid said it was a big wet kiss.

      We do not rent rooms to Republicans.

      by Mary Julia on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 05:57:28 PM PDT

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  •  Criminal Law (4.00 / 4)

    One factor which has been totally overlooked in the deabte is the importance of the nation's circuit courts in developing criminal law.  As a member of the Texas Supreme Court, Justice Owen does not deal with criminal cases - we have a seperate high court - The infamous Texas Court of Criminal Appeals - which deals with these matters.  Also, unlike some other members of the Supreme Court, she ran for election as a private lawyer with no experience on any of the Texas intermediate Courts of Apppeal which deal with both criminal and civil matters and from which appeals are taken to the appropriate high court.

    With the increased focus nationally on corporate and white collar crime, it is of particular significance that a judge with no experience in deciding criminal matters but with extensive corporate ties will be going onto the Fifth Circuit.

    God and ego are not equivalent expressions of reality.

    by Othniel on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 11:24:07 AM PDT

  •  Seems to me that (4.00 / 3)

    this is not the most effective forum for something like this.

    This is the kind of information that we should be disseminating, both overtly and covertly, to the religious right.  Let them know that the Republicans don't care about them.  Point out how ol' W sold them out in his press conference when he said that the judicial filibusters had nothing to do with faith.  Suggest that they start their own party.

    If we can isolate the wacko faction of the right into its own entity, then people can finally see the movement for what it is--radicalism, not conservatism.  Then, we win.

    "Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve." George Bernard Shaw

    by Shygetz on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 11:46:08 AM PDT

    •  Yes but.. (none / 0)

      Yes it would be great to email information like this in bulk to the religious right.
      But they will not vote for a Democrat as I said in an above post, but if they are not motivated and fired up, they will stay home.  

      I would like to see the Religious right get on TV and argue and fuss and fight with the Corporate right..though..it would be fun to behold.

      But the best group ripe for the picking are RINOS,  or those of the secular right, Those Republicans who tell us they are liberally socially but fiscally conservative and are pissed as hell at Bush's spending,  Moderate Republicans etc. As a Republican friend of mine said, " If Republicans become more appalled at the far right than they are appalled at Democrats, that would be the key". We can make inroads with dissatisfied Republicans but I doubt we can make inroads with the Religious right anytime in the next several decades if ever.

      The one thing we know about the McCain campaign...is that they're very good at negative campaigns, they're not so good at governing- Barack Obama

      by wishingwell on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 01:06:55 PM PDT

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    •  Not so. (none / 1)

      Corporatist and conservative "values" both are wooed by these judges.   Reminder of this is right here  upthread.
    •  Ohio Restoration Project (none / 0)

      From the Columbus Dispatch Sunday, March 27, 2005 James Dao THE NEW YORK TIMES One goal for the group is to help Secretary of State J. Kenneth Blackwell win the governor`s office in 2006. Christian conservative leaders from scores of Ohio`s fastest-growing churches are mounting a campaign to win control of local government posts and Republican organizations, starting with the 2006 governor`s race. In a manifesto that is being circulated among church leaders and on the Internet, the group, which is called the Ohio Restoration Project, is planning to mobilize 2,000 evangelical, Baptist, Pentecostal and Roman Catholic leaders in a network of "Patriot Pastors" to register half a million new voters, enlist activists, train candidates and endorse conservative causes in the next year.The initial goal is to elect Secretary of State J. Kenneth Blackwell, a conservative Republican, as governor in 2006. The group hopes to build grass-roots organizations in Ohio`s 88 counties and take control of local Republican organizations.
      •  Great budget fix (none / 0)

        Immediately repeal the tax-exempt status of all churches involved in this.

        Kenneth Blackwell is the actor who played the Katherine Harris role in the 2004 election.  The Ohio governorship is his payback, as the house seat was hers.

        The corruption of the political landscape in my home state is real scary.  

        I read in another diary that DeWine and Voinovich had both voted no on the "We don't care if poor people die, the richest 1% need another tax cut" budget bill.  I am so surprised I am waiting for verification before congratulating them.  How sad is it that our country has come to the point that we have trouble believing that a Republican senator could ever vote against a Republican president even on the most heinous of bills.

        Maybe they couldn't take their constituents' screaming any more :)

        OWOWFO (Old White Ohio Woman for Obama) -7.00, -5.38 Support ePluribus Media

        by Jesus was a Liberal on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 08:49:12 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

  •  Ah-hah. (4.00 / 2)

    That makes such total sense.

    Thank you so much for sharing this analysis.

    "Think. It ain't illegal yet." - George Clinton

    by jbeach on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 11:52:47 AM PDT

  •  Excellent job! (4.00 / 2)

    Recommended - Mother Jones is one heck of a resource for information like this. Much thanks for digging as far back as you did to find this relevant article, and for posting it at the perfect time.
  •  Nice Diary (4.00 / 2)

    On the other hand there's never been any real doubt about their mission.

    Abortion and prayer move a few million dollars around every year. Tort reform and the rest of deregulation are for game, set, match and the entire playing field.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 11:58:47 AM PDT

  •  a quibble (4.00 / 2)

    >>> to show the real driving motive for and the real financial backers of the Bush judicial nominees.  And religion has little to do with it, except as a cover story.

    Sometimes the largest financial backers really are religious zealots.  And those are the scariest mofos of all.

    •  Many of them are (none / 0)

      snake oil peddlers who need to be exposed too.  I agree that they are scary and they are sometimes big funders.  Just not as much in the case of Bush's judges.

      The ...Bushies... don't make policies to deal with problems. ...It's all about how can we spin what's happening out there to do what we want to do. Krugman

      by mikepridmore on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 12:02:08 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  It's complex (4.00 / 3)

    It's not that the Christian Right is 'just a cover' but rather that this ultra-right-wing twist of Christiantiy is intricately tied to rampant corporatism and irrational faith in markets.

    The Dominionists in the megachurches are not old fashioned pentecostalists, they worship mammon. It's not like they will suddenly recognize today's GOP as non-Christian ecause of their business orientation, because they don't even know the gospels, save for a few choice excerpts from John.

    •  They're so far from Christianity (none / 1)

      that I wonder why they still bother to call themselves Christians.

      The influence of the [executive] has increased, is increasing, and ought to be diminished.

      by lysias on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 12:08:48 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Some of this current (none / 0)

        crowd used to have scruples.  Pat Robertson has always been an opportunist, as have others.  Dobson, as loathesome as he seems, actually seems to think he is doing the principled thing.  They aren't all the same, or at least they didn't start out the same.

        The ...Bushies... don't make policies to deal with problems. ...It's all about how can we spin what's happening out there to do what we want to do. Krugman

        by mikepridmore on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 12:28:33 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  Falwell has (4.00 / 2)

          always been corrupt and in bed with the GOP however. I remember him from the 1970s. He called himself a Fundamentalist Christian and was opposed to the Evangelicals of the 1970s who were comprised of a number of war protestors, hippies, and the Jesus Freaks as they were called. Then Falwell set about to HIJACK the Evangelical name and he sadly succeeded.  It used to be Evangelicals tended to be Democrats in the late 60s-mid 70s..and support Jimmy Carter for President...not Falwell though.
          I used to be an Evangelical until 1980 when Reagan and Falwell hijacked it!!!!!! Evangelicals used to be compassionate and kind and many of my fellow church members were more liberal than I am then..the good ol days. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          The one thing we know about the McCain campaign...is that they're very good at negative campaigns, they're not so good at governing- Barack Obama

          by wishingwell on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 01:14:32 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

      •  Because the branding works. (none / 0)

        Everybody talkin' 'bout Heaven ain't goin' there -- Mahalia Jackson

        by DaveW on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 12:41:42 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  Yes (none / 1)

        Exactly !! I remember working for the Carter Campaign in 76 and worked side by side with many Evangelicals because Carter was Evangelical. It used to be a very good thing, even a liberal thing to be Evangelical . That is until the Fundies Hijacked the Evangelicals and now they are lumped together. It was a bad merger, for sure.

        But there are still liberal to moderate Evangelicals, like Jimmy Carter, my mother and others but they are few and far between.!!!!

        The one thing we know about the McCain campaign...is that they're very good at negative campaigns, they're not so good at governing- Barack Obama

        by wishingwell on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 01:17:18 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

    •  True (none / 0)

      The thing is that their sheep are not all rich and tied to corporations but key members, elders, deacons, ministers are quite tied to big money.

      The key is getting the middle class and lower class right wing sheep to see the connection between corporate interests and religion and how they are being used.

      The religious right sheep have to be motivated to vote or they will stay home if they feel their interests are not being addressed. It is just the rich Religious right who are motivated to vote even if Abortion and Gay marriage are not on the table and even if the President screws them.

      The one thing we know about the McCain campaign...is that they're very good at negative campaigns, they're not so good at governing- Barack Obama

      by wishingwell on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 01:10:25 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  I wish you were 100% correct. (none / 1)

        For some, that may be true - the ones who are merely following Christian Right fascism, er, I mean fashion. For many though, the ones who are serious about this newly ascendant hyper-Calvinist theology, it is their true belief that market economics and salvation are closely linked. They really believe that material wealth is a reward for and measure of spiritual virtue. They believe thatto getvrich they just need to work harder, live clean and pray more. I have known plenty of middle class folks who actualy buy into this more than the gay-hating stuff. They hate 'lazy poor people' (especially if not white or not born in the USA) and 'commie liberal bureaucrats' who 'leach off the working folks'. They believe that if they aren't rich yet, it's because they don't deserve it yet. They seem to beleive in some weird fusion of Calvinism and Randian Objectivism, leaving out the disdain for material wealth (even as a marker) of Calvin and the atheism of Rand.  

        Yes, there are some who may adhere to a more traditional Christianity, but for most they don't care about the corporate interests using them. They somehow feel it's their place to be in the food chain and their time will come.

        •  You are probably right (none / 1)

          Maybe my mother and I just seem to know so many poor people, really struggling, who are part of the Religious right and practically worship Bush.

          The one thing we know about the McCain campaign...is that they're very good at negative campaigns, they're not so good at governing- Barack Obama

          by wishingwell on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 01:52:21 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  Hmmm (none / 1)

            Are old-time Baptists maybe ot Pentecostals?

            I think many of the loyal congregants of the Dominionist megachurches were reaised in secular or nominally Christian households, thus they more easily fall prey to dodgy theological positions. They don't actually read the whole bible in context, but just keep going back to the same passages over and over. Tey read lots of 'inspirational' literature. They listen to faux-pop instead of siniging traditional hymns. It's really quite different. Now, at the risk of sounding anti-Baptist, I think the Baptist Southern Convention has gone over to the dark side as well, but among most of the old conservative evangelical denominations, I think you are right and the support for the GOP Theocrats is an inch deep and mile wide. Sadly, it's in the exurban megachurches that we see the growth and the money now.

            •  My experience (none / 1)

              is that during the 60s and 70s the Pentecostals were quite liberal. I remember Pentecostals being shunned by Fundamentalists..I clearly remember the fights and bitter arguments between the two groups in my own church fracturing it then. I wrote a diary about how the Evangelicals were hijacked and a bad merger between them and the Fundies led to their larger numbers. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/4/29/16387/9758

              The one thing we know about the McCain campaign...is that they're very good at negative campaigns, they're not so good at governing- Barack Obama

              by wishingwell on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 02:16:26 PM PDT

              [ Parent ]

              •  That's why (none / 0)

                I was wondering if you were one. All the pentecostals I know now are liberal (though they are also all black) and I've heard the white pentecostals are often similar in commitment to social justice.
                •  You guessed right (none / 0)

                  I was of the 70s liberal Pentecostals in an Evangelical church. But the Pentecostals were rather forced out with the merging of the Evangelical churches with the Fundmentalist churches. Pentecostals either formed their own church or went to non Evangelical church as I did.

                  I now consider myself a Progressive Christian and prefer the Anglican or UCC, or Methodist Churches.
                  Finding a liberal Pentecostal church is becoming quite difficult in a small town or rural area but easier in an urban area.

                  The one thing we know about the McCain campaign...is that they're very good at negative campaigns, they're not so good at governing- Barack Obama

                  by wishingwell on Sat Apr 30, 2005 at 09:40:17 PM PDT

                  [ Parent ]

  •  David Frum rambled... (none / 0)

    about something along these lines last night.  He was on MSNBC (I think?).  Was basically implying that leftist judicial activists are the reason the economy and job market suck.  Seems that in his opinion, we need to rubber stamp Dubya's nominees for the sake of the economy.
  •  Thanks for this diary... (none / 1)

    ...and a great job for putting it all together for us.

    Fear will keep the local systems in line. -Grand Moff Tarkin -SLB-

    by boran2 on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 12:06:36 PM PDT

    •  Thanks for (none / 0)

      the compliment.  Exposing the crooks (the "plutocratic oligarchy" is my favorite description), that run our country is my self-prescribed sanity maintenance after 11/2/04.  

      The ...Bushies... don't make policies to deal with problems. ...It's all about how can we spin what's happening out there to do what we want to do. Krugman

      by mikepridmore on Sat Apr 30, 2005 at 08:21:12 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  The Key To All This (4.00 / 5)

    in my opinion is to create enough dissention in the radical religious right that they run a third-party candidate in the 2008 Election.  

    It is imperative that we move public opinion and create the impression that the White House and Congressional Republicans don't care for the causes of the radical religious right, but instead only care about big business.  We know this, but the general public is unaware.  

    If we do this, we got a real shot at creating a shism within the Republican Party heading into the coming elections.  If a shism occurs, even if slight, its light out.  

    •  I've been quietly (none / 1)

      suggesting this (that Bush uses them) to my christian Republican friends.

      The ...Bushies... don't make policies to deal with problems. ...It's all about how can we spin what's happening out there to do what we want to do. Krugman

      by mikepridmore on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 12:09:31 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  I agree (none / 0)

      Where's Ross Perot?

      People of every color, marching side to side, marching 'cross these fields where a million fascists dies - Woody Guthrie

      by JoMo DemKim on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 01:04:24 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Until the Evangelicals (none / 0)

      separate themselves from the Fundammentalists and get back to being what I call , Jimmy Carter Evangelicals, we will not see much movement in that group. See my above posts, I remember when liberals in the 60s liked the Evangelical churches but shunned the Fundamentalist churches and there was HUGE, MAJOR difference between the two politically.
      Big differences !!!!!!!!!!!!!

      The one thing we know about the McCain campaign...is that they're very good at negative campaigns, they're not so good at governing- Barack Obama

      by wishingwell on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 01:19:20 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  However (none / 0)

        Yeah but haven't the evangelicals really just become fundamentalists in the last 10 years?  
        •  Actually they merged about 15-18 years ago (none / 1)

          I wrote a diary about the Fundamentalists hijacked the Evangelical faith and they have merged...a sad, tragic merger. Jimmy Carter and other moderate liberals really are hurt and angered over it. My mother really grieves this.

          http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/4/29/16387/9758

          The one thing we know about the McCain campaign...is that they're very good at negative campaigns, they're not so good at governing- Barack Obama

          by wishingwell on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 01:56:03 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

        •  I can remember (none / 1)

          When my Evangelical friends were huge Carter advocates, Democrats, anti war protestors, and worked for civil rights causes. Then the Fundies worked quietly but actively to recruit these people and the Fundies and Evangelicals became one in the same.

          Now these same folks, well more that half of these old friends and some family members are no longer Democrats and are part of the Right wing religious faction. It is the STRANGEST thing to watch people I have known my whole life go from being liberal activists to full blown conversative wingnuts.

          The one thing we know about the McCain campaign...is that they're very good at negative campaigns, they're not so good at governing- Barack Obama

          by wishingwell on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 01:59:17 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

  •  Boggles my mind (4.00 / 3)

    HOW MUCH money do these people need?  

    I truly think they watch movies such as Wall street and think Gordon Gekko is the good guy.

    •  It's not that (none / 0)

      It's an illness that leads them to such aquisitiveness, and when they associate with each other, the emergence of a kleptocracy is inevitable.

      You can't be on the team, if you're not in the choir. Sorry.

      by peeder on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 08:03:30 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  asdf (4.00 / 6)

    Corporatism is the #1 threat to our Democracy. Period. PERIOD.
  •  really important (none / 0)

    extremly enlightening. How do we say it in 25 words or less for the average american
  •  RSS and XML feeds (none / 0)

    What's the point of it?

    What's the benefit?

    Can someone explain it to me?

    "Make the truth your litmus test."

    by independentchristian on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 12:13:42 PM PDT

  •  Yes (4.00 / 3)

    Those who to a large extent already control the country use the Christian Right as a weakly leashed pit bull to to frighten their opponents and gain the scraps of power they don't already control.  I don't think these 'oligarchs' in the US want the Christian Right to come to power any more than we on the left do, they just think they can control them and put the hammer down when need be.  What scares the shit out of me is what if that rabies infected pit bull breaks its leash and can't be controlled by those exploiting it?

    Recovering Intellectual. 12 days stupid.

    by scionkirk on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 12:14:42 PM PDT

    •  Papen on Hitler, (none / 0)

      after Papen engineered the deal that brought Hitler to power in a coalition government: Wir haben ihn engagiert [We have hired him].

      One of the stupidest comments in history.

      The influence of the [executive] has increased, is increasing, and ought to be diminished.

      by lysias on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 01:29:58 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  History tells them it works (none / 1)

      It is widely known that Rove is a student of history.

      A few quotes from history;
      "It is the purpose of the Government to fill our whole culture once more with a Christian spirit, and that not only in politics. We want to burn out the harmful features in our theatres and literature."

      "The National Government will preserve and defend those basic principles on which our nation has been built up. It regareds Christianity as the foundation of our national morality and the family as the basis of national life."

      "The Government... regards Christianity as the unshakable foundation of our marals and moral code of the nation. The rights of the Church will not be diminished."

      "The Government, being resolved to undertake the political and moral purification of our public life, is creating and securing the conditions necessary for a really profound revival of religious life. The struggle against materialistic views and for a real national community is just as much in the interest of the nation as in the interest of the welfare of our Christian faith."

      Almost 80 years ago these words were used by another leader to persuade his citizens to allow him to come to power. The leader of course was Adoph Hitler. I'm not making personal comparisons just rhetorical ones. Just listen to the words. Bush could never be this articulate but the meanings of his words the tone of the Rethugs is to close to ignore.

      Of course the corporations are behind this, they were behind Adolph. They thought they had him under control, but once evil has been unleashed its uncontrolable.

      If he shows vision, he lacks substance. If he gives details, he's wonky. If he walks on water, he can't swim. DBunn at DKos

      by TexDem on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 01:37:23 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  One would think (none / 1)

    that our Dems would have been more adroit in pointing out more specifically that these judicial posts had virtually nothing to do with religious belief and everything to do with power and lack of corporate restraint.

    Now, however, the trick for the Dems is to get this point across while simultaneously finding a way to help the rank and file evangelicals to understand how thouroughly and callously they've been duped, and how incompetent their own evangelical wingnut leaders are for having been so easily manipulated.

    Many of the groundswell evangelicals have already begun to realize they've been betrayed by the Bush regime, and many of them have also begun to see not only that their own leaders are strategically inept and embarrassingly simpleminded, but are also downright crazy once they get the bit between their teeth. But the Dems need to be cautious about how they expose these rifts, because, as is well known in the field of mass deception, people tend to punish the bearer of bad news, even when that messenger has nothing to do with the news itself. So, the Dems sould be manipulating the so-called "faith-based" repub wingnuts into voicing their own betrayals; i.e., challenging them outright to either support the absurd pronouncements of fascists like Dobson and Perkins and Robertson, etc., or backing away from them publicly, as the hapless Bush did last night. And of course, press the fight in front of every microphone available about the records or these judicial nominee maniacs.

    I want to see the repubs self destruct by eating their own. Then the Dems can have clean hands.

    Defeat the sound-bite.

    by sbj on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 12:15:23 PM PDT

    •  Yeah but... (none / 0)

      ... what part of our agenda is supposed to appeal to intolerant, bigoted homophobes on the far right?

      We may be able to convince them that the GOP is screwing them but so what?  What are we going to do for them?  

      They want their anti-abortion, anti-gay agenda and it's so antithetical to ours that I don't think we can convince them to vote for us.  

      At best, a few of them may sit it out but we've been so vilified that we'll definitely be the far greater of two evils in their minds.

      "Unseen, in the background, Fate was quietly slipping the lead into the boxing glove." P.G. Wodehouse

      by gsbadj on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 12:27:26 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  I understand what you're saying, (none / 1)

        but I believe that those phobias and intolerances and overly aggressive propensities exhibited by the evangelical crowd are for the most part manufactured and maintained by the wingnut leaders in that community. In short, I don't think most evangelicals are that enthusiastic as far as bashing their fellow man is concerned, but rather their ignorance is being constantly weaponized by the likes of Dobson, Perkins, et. al.

        I don't personally believe any of the religious dogma imposed by any religious organization on their followers. but I do know how easily a preacher or other blowhard can take basically normal human beings and turn them into to maniacs. Hitler did it in Germany; Popes and other prelates have done it throughout history, and the result has always been the mass slaughter of innocents. But as soon as the shouting from the pulpit stops, as soon as the flock begins to realize how scary these wingnut evangelical speakers are, that's when the whole crusade, the whole jihad starts to fall apart. WWII would not have happened if Hitler had been unable to stage those massive rallies.

        This is where the battles need to be engaged. The hearts and minds of most people are more similar than they are different. I live in the south, and I know a fair amount of religious people who go to church every week and who invoke the name of God on a regular basis. Now I wouldn't want any of these people to teach my children about such religious matters, but it doesn't mean I don't respect them as basically decent human beings. If they're listening to Dobson or the rest of the fascists and exhibiting that kind of behavior, then that's a different story. But most of them that I know only act up in that way when they've been exposed to that kind of oratorical terrorism. Otherwise, they are just fellow citizens,who want the same basic things I want out of life.

        Defeat the sound-bite.

        by sbj on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 01:55:23 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

  •  no more compromise (4.00 / 2)

    How much is enough for these people? They are like the bandit who's not satisfied with the huge bankroll from your wallet. He takes you to the cash machine, makes you empty your account, takes you home, steals your valuables, then burns your house down with you in it. Do they think about what a society with no restrictions on corporations (which by definition, have no conscience) would look like? No protections for workers? No pollution control? They are like crack addicts not seeing beyond the next hit. Profit, and the utter destruction of anything or anyone that stands in the way of it is their only god.
    •  "Corporations have no conscience" (4.00 / 2)

      I've been saying that for 30 years, and people just look at me like I'm an idiot.

      The ramifications of that are in full view in the current regieme. With profit is their only objective, the cost in lives is meaningless! That includes war, of course, but also the lives of those who depend on them for a paycheck (or retirement -- pity the poor souls slaving for Enron).

      Oh, I could go on ... for another 30 years, if we last that long!

      "This chamber reeks of blood." -- Sen George McGovern, 1970

      by cotterperson on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 01:06:44 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Too bad the Dem Party isn't 100% pro-consumer! (4.00 / 2)

    If we were, we'd be slaughtering the GOP pigs. History will look back unfavorably at the damage done by DLC, corporate-loving 'Democrats".

    Let's hope we learn, and come to brand ourselves as the pro-consumer, pro-working guy party.

    Usually a candidate only has to run against one Party. Ned Lamont had to fight the entire CT Rep Party, and 1/3 of the CT Dem Party. No wonder he lost.

    by DeanFan84 on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 12:30:29 PM PDT

  •  yo (none / 0)

     --hand ... glove ... pocket ... pool ... wolf ... sheep--   The impunable xian-right and corporation don't look much different, when both are cloaked in financial exemptionism.  (ie.. those who serve them, get 'crumbs [fallen] from the table'.  And, those who they serve, live as gods.) <---even, when they sin.

    The [duped] 'peasants' need to take-down these 'icons' of hypocrisy (read: 'welfare queens').

    Every time Dubyanochio starts to tout his agendas, it is easy (if one LQQKs) to discern the faux concerns.

    eg:  "We MUST build a 'missle defense' to protect us from NoKorea! (and prosper my family, the
    military/industrial teat-suckers)."

           "We MUST impose bankrupcy reform to make the 'lazy-people' WORK (and let the banks continue to
    extort their earnings)."

           "We MUST 'privatize' retirements so individuals can 'own their wealth' (and the financial institutions
    [& guvmint] can randomly rape them, with impunity)."

           "We MUST incorporate good xian judges to preserve the 'morality' of society (and forge the mutual
    'backscratchers' alliance of tax-exempt icons)."

    Ayup...... no surprises here ....... move along

    ~A govt lobbied, campaigned and selected by corporation... is good for corporation. Bad for people.~ -8.88 -8.36

    by Orj ozeppi on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 12:30:36 PM PDT

  •  More and more... (none / 1)

    ...this bunch looks less like the National Socialists in Germany in the 1920s, and more like the mob infiltrating legitimate businesses in their heyday.

    Except the mob was better at hiding their connections.

    Plus they wore better suits...

    "I'm not negative - I'm ANGRY!" -- Howard the Duck

    by Roddy McCorley on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 12:37:05 PM PDT

  •  it's always about the money (4.00 / 2)

    my own feeble attempt at connecting up the theocon/meocon dots...
    Neoconned!

    "Don't be a janitor on the Death Star!" - Grey Lady Bast (change @ for AT to email)

    by bellatrys on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 12:44:28 PM PDT

  •  We need to fracture the Republican Party (none / 1)

    It can be done like it has in the past, if some how the Republicans can nominate a moderate, and then the pissed off radical right nominates their own extremist then they will be split down the middle and the Democrats can win with whoever we want with only 40% of the vote! Ha, i can dream cant i?? :-P
    •  Or if the right wing anti-choice, anti-woman (none / 1)

      Christians split totally from the Republicians and form their own party, thereby diluting the Republican party vote to 25 or 30%, just a guesstimate/dream.  

      There is no way to peace. Peace is the way. - Mahatma Gandhi

      by otis704 on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 01:37:42 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  People of Faith (4.00 / 2)

    Clearly, people of faith have been and are being suckered.  Time to drive the money-changers out of the temples of justice.

    That's the message that needs to go out across the land.

    How do you tell a predator from a protector? The predator will eat you sooner rather than later.

    by hannah on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 01:18:28 PM PDT

  •  Sunset Commission (none / 1)

    This is underlined by Bush's sneaking into the budget of a proposal for a "Sunset Commission" in which an eight-member panel picked by the President could unilaterally abolish federal programs every 10 years.  The idea is to pack the courts with right-wing ideologues that would side with the Commission in eliminating things like the EPA, FDA, and the SEC.

    I completely agree with your analysis, yet the Religious Right has yet to understand that they're being played (even after getting shivved in the back by Bush just last night), and I don't know if they ever will.

    D-Day, the newest blog on the internet (at the moment of its launch)

    by dday on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 01:26:22 PM PDT

  •  Public perception (none / 1)

    I've long been one who believed that Big Business and money is what this administration is all about, and that they are using the Religious Right come election time (which is why the occassionally make concessions to the Right, but don't actively try to overturn Roe, or birth-control, or bring up legislation to reintroduce school prayer).

    However, public perception, for both mainstram American and the Religious Right, is that the Bush agenda is also very much about religion.

    The Religious Right has been fooled into voting Republican. They think the GOP is on their side. As do many Americans.

    So how do we use this. Two options:

    1. We expose the real agenda of the Republicans as one about Big Business, not religion. The Religious Right, which these days has sensed they are being used, is restless, and demanding more for themselves. We hammer home the idea to the Relgious Right that they are being used, fracturing the Republican base.

    2. We don't expose the business agenda of the Republicans. Instead, we play up the false religious agenda of the Republicans, in order to scare ordinary Americans away from the GOP.

    Which one would work better? Or can we do both at once? Or are there other options?
  •  Opium of the masses... (4.00 / 2)

    along the idea that religion allows neo-cons and big business to covertly push their agenda, two recent posts I found thoughtful & enlightening:

    The Grand Delusion:
    http://billmon.org/archives/001854.html

    Slow Boil:
    http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2005_04_24_digbysblog_archive.html#111463746855189734

  •  Are you taking request from the audience? (4.00 / 2)

    For all the lawyers out there could someone post (or point me to) a diary on the history and importance of the Commerce Clause (post New Deal), the current state of constitutional debate.

    I'd really appreciate it.

    -Hope never cost Corporate America a dime -Somebody blow Bush so we can impeach him already.

    by DWCG on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 01:39:09 PM PDT

    •  Requests? Anything (none / 1)

      for a fellow Clark supporter.  I would have responded sooner but I had a long trip I did in the meantime.  Here is a piece by Armando.  Maybe not exactly what you were looking for but it is on the commerce clause.

      The ...Bushies... don't make policies to deal with problems. ...It's all about how can we spin what's happening out there to do what we want to do. Krugman

      by mikepridmore on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 03:51:28 PM PDT

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  •  IS Anyone on this thread really surprised????????? (none / 1)

    Forgive an obserservation but the fact that this Chrisitan right and "culture of Life"stuff is a load of crap and just marketing spin shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. Is it???????????

    Its just marketing and wedge issue manuvering.

    Lets see 10 Billion in Medicaid cuts while you're giving 102 Billion in tax cuts to the 1%ers. Oh shock!!!!

    "Freetrade" is just another name for "Robber Barron Capitalism."

    "The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness."

    John Kenneth Galbraith

     

  •  OOooops I meant baron (none / 0)

    Its "Robber Baron Capitali