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Edwards and his effect

Wed Jul 07, 2004 at 11:06:57 AM PDT

First, I would like to address the "inexperience" issue.  As expected, Republicans want to paint John Edwards as an "inexperienced liberal trial lawyer" who doesn't meet standards when compared to Cheney. (Moonie rag WT story here)   I say if they really want to compare Edwards to Cheney then let them.  We will win that one hands down.  But as my friend Maryscott has admirably pointed out already, Edwards compares well with the experience of previous presidents, including George Bush, who soon will be a previous president.  Besides this, it was Republicans who picked the all-time lightweight Danforth Quayle as a veep and, as The Note noted this morning, there is "little press credence in any Quayle comparisons."   My favorite quote of the day goes to Raleigh News and Observer's Dennis Rogers:

"Looking over the list of fools, felons, wannabes and has-beens who have been vice president of the United States, it is surprising that a bright and go-getter politician like Raleigh's U.S. Sen. John Edwards would get within shouting distance of such a loser job."
OK, back to that part about being a "liberal trial lawyer."  The now familiar NBC poll says roughly two-thirds of Americans have no problem with a trial lawyer.  But that interesting statistic doesn't really show us the full range of possibilities Edwards brings to the ticket.  First, he has a palpable appeal to middle class America.  As Mary Beth Cahill (who did a darn good job on the morning talk shows!!) said to Today, "John Edwards is an American success story. He came from humble beginnings to being a wealthy man and a fighter for the rights of the middle class... That's something the American people admire." Nick Kristof put it this way, "Senator John Edwards is America's best natural politician since Bill Clinton, and he'll help with the Democrats' most crucial task: reconnecting the party to Middle American voters."

Far from being too liberal to appeal to red state voters, the choice of Edwards brings appeal to the south and rural America.   The Raleigh News and Observer's Lynn Bonner writes, "The tremors of Edwards' selection rippled beyond North Carolina to South Carolina, Arkansas and Louisiana." The Charlotte Observer's Tim Funk and Jim Morrill   write that "Kerry gave his presidential campaign a boost of energy and signaled his intention to carry his campaign into the South."  Though they will not say so on the record, Republicans also are worried about the Edwards effect in the south and midwest.  In the Boston Globe, Anne Kornblut gets some off-the-record handwringing that Edwards might make states such as Tennessee and North Carolina competitive and attract moderate Midwesterners who were otherwise unsure about the Democratic challenger.  The Wall Street Journal's Al Hunt (cited here ) writes that Democratic strategists believe that if Edwards is able to help Kerry win back 10 to 15 percent of the rural vote, "it will be an election clincher."

One of the few clouds looming on the Edwards horizon is from big business, which has an intense dislike for trial lawyers.  There is thunder rumbling all over the place as the SCLM tries to help make an issue of it. WaPo,
the NYT and The Hill all have pieces about how upset the business community is.  But I think this actually is a good thing rather than a bad one.  I think this gives us an opportunity to create a good wedge issue by showing how the GOP cooperates with big business (and vice versa) to cheney  the working class. (Previous diary on that here.) As Peter Canellos writes in his Boston Globe column, the picking of Edwards "says Kerry believes that working-class voters are a swing constituency across the country and that he needs more help with them than with upscale professionals."  The Wall Street Journal's Jake Schlesinger and David Rogers (cited here) also note that Edwards' selection shows that Kerry is betting that the economy is the key to the election. They combine this with an observation about how Edwards "makes executives nervous" and specifically mention a focus on predatory lending.  

I think outstanding trial lawyer Edwards can make a good case that under Bush the big business fatcats are getting fatter while the working class starves.  Here is evidence that the Bush tax cuts went to the rich and big business fatcats instead of small business.  Here is some good evidence that the working class got no real tax cut.  More on how the long term deficits will hurt the working class here. Some more good prima facie evidence from EPI showing that the fatcats are getting a gold mine  while workers get the shaft:

Go get 'em Johnny E.!!!  Tell the GOP and their fatcat friends to cry you a cheneying river with their crocodile tears.

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  •  I'm trying to convince (4.00 / 10)

    the state party apparatus here to use some of this info in an ad campaign now that Edwards is the veep nominee.  I'd like to hear your thoughts on the matter.
    •  Great diary (none / 0)

      I see no harm in making your "tip jar" explicit.  You deserve mucho mojo for this piece of hard work.  Why add a "subtle" surrogate pseudo tip jar when you can add a direct and forthright one?  Credit where credit is due.  That's the spirit of dkos.
      •  Thanks for (none / 0)

        the props.  I really appreciate the compliments.  I'm doing ok in the mojo dept though.  But I am out of work and trying to find a way to use pieces like this to make money and help the cause at the same time.  So the discussion could potentially be important.  Again, thanks so much for the compliments.
        •  Writing, earning, helping (none / 0)

          If you're doing this stuff seriously, and writing a lot, I recommend watching George Lakoff lecturing on framing, taped at the June 4 Take Back America conference.  He's a linguist and cognitive scientist at Berkeley.  I've read quite a few books by him: I think he's a true genius.  If you're out of work, you have time to watch this long video.  If you haven't watched it already, I'm sure it'll give you a few "aha!" light-bulb Eureka experiences, and it could help your writing a lot.

          Good luck with your writing.

          PS I'm not in bed with the guy or anything: he's just one of my heroes.

  •  It begins (4.00 / 2)

    I was flipping channels at lunch and saw on CNBC news a story about John Edwards:Trial Lawyer and high medical premiums.  I think this is going to be the main fight against Edwards.  Bush's people are going to say "your medical premiums are high because of John Edwards".  And, sadly, I think it will resonate.  There has to be a coordinated effort to rebut it and it has to happen right away.

    Also, in the big business v. trial lawyers case.  "Trial Lawyers" is such an incorrect term.  Big business has a whole lot more trial lawyers to defend themselves than the people suing them do.  Who they are actually trying to demonize are "plaintiffs lawyers", like John Edwards.  I mean, hell, Ted Olson is a trial lawyer.  

    "They're trying to fool you. They're trying to scare you. And they're not telling you the truth." Obama '08

    by bawbie on Wed Jul 07, 2004 at 11:18:59 AM PDT

    •  If they (4.00 / 2)

      want to pick that fight then let them.  Insurance premiums are high because the insurance industry is using that "too many frivolous lawsuits" BS as an excuse for Enron-style price gouging.  They made a bundle last year.
    •  for evidence (none / 1)

      that the Insurance industry and George Bush are lying their @$$e$ off about this, go here,
      here or here or a number of other places for proof.
    •  The trial lawyer hate isn't as great as you think (none / 1)

      From last night's CNN national sample:

      Is John Edwards's experience as a trial lawyer a strength or a weakness?

      Strength--67%
      Weakness--27%

      Edwards also pulls off the champion of the little guy as well as anybody I've ever seen. Moderate voters will never view him as an ambulance chaser, not after hearing about some of the victims he's represented. The issue of ambulance chasing in general may have some resonance, but it's not going to boomerang back on the Dem ticket because of Edwards. And if the GOP was getting some traction with it, it would be pretty easy for Edwards to have some kind of Sister Souljah moment, where he criticized some kind of frivolous lawsuit. But I highly, highly doubt it will come to that. I think the public got it right last night--Edwards's prior career will be an asset in this campaign.

      •  was that a CNN (none / 0)

        poll?  I thought it was NBC?  That's the source of the two thirds reference I made in the diary.
      •  Look at his cases (none / 0)

        They can say ambulance chaser all they want, but there are a lot of cerebal palsy victims and a girl who lives on feeding tubes because her guts were sucked out in a pool, who can say different.

        He got money from rich insurance companies and corporations who screwed working people. He had his pick of cases, taking like 5 out of 40 offered to him.

        There might be some pissed off people, but for the most part, Edwards was one of the best regarded lawyers in the state, and popular with jurors as well as his peers.

        If you're stupid enough to attack him for representing crippled children, go right ahead. Given how Rove's conducted his campaign, I wouldn't be surprised.

    •  Perhaps we should try reframing the (none / 0)

      debate by creating a new term? NOt plaintiffs lawyers, but "peoples lawyers?" OK, the very word people's is so debased and trashed by the right wing, along with words like Public, that perhaps that one is bad, but Im sure people can come up with something better.  Edwards needs a sweeping attack and a new way to discuss the issue.

      Your point that, of course, there are lots of lawyers out there is good. I'd like to see edwards and the dems take on the fake issue of medical malpractice directly (but of course they wont because they are as in bed with the insurance industry as anyone else). But maybe they will be wiling to do it for the course of the election season.
      aimai

  •  let's SETTLE this one. (none / 1)

    His experience as a trial lawyer has surely worked to his advantage in the Senate and on the stump, and it stands to help him when he debates Cheney (that is, if Cheney doesn't, you know, bite off his face or something).

    People seem to respond really positively to Edwards, even knowing that he's a lawyer, so if this is their idea of an effective line of attack, then I almost pity the GOP.  Almost.

    You know what, man? Your sarcastic remark-related program activities might come back to haunt you someday.

    by LunaC on Wed Jul 07, 2004 at 11:49:29 AM PDT

    •  I think the same thing but (none / 0)

      I've noticed that people seem to think (not you, just people in general) that if Edwards can only do certain things in the debates then ...it will be good. but haven't we seen enough of the debacle of the debates, the twisted, inane lines of questioning that will be thrown at them, the pointless and moronic showing off of the "moderators."?  I agree that edwards experience as a trial lawyer, and as a lawyer, morever, who principally wins in front of juries (and not, like many, in front of appeals courts) will be extremely useful. Further, I'd stipulate that he probably has a lot of experience handling/showing up grumpy, enraged, domineering CEO's like Cheney so that he should be good at not being caught flat footed. But remember, he is used to cross examining--not being attacked directly from the stand.  And he won't be able to pick and choose what questions cheney gets asked--or even to talk to cheney directly at these so called debates.  Man I hope they really work through these issues in the briefings before the debates, and that George Will/Karl Rove et al don't still the briefing books again.  Look out for plenty of dirty tricks around the debates, including national emergencies that force cheney back into hiding.

      aimai

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